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Re: What's all the fuss about?

Postby lewisskinner » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:55 pm

cowboy wrote:How about this..using the live dvd put it in a clean USB and set your Bios to boot from the USB...?

I couldn't see an option in the BIOS to boot from USB. I'll have another look though, certainly!
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Re: What's all the fuss about?

Postby cowboy » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:20 pm

What I meant was download Super Grub and then put it into a USB..then if your Bios allows boot from the USB...maybe a shot...
Edit...Since your running the live DVD..use Partition Editor..give us a screenshot on what your partitions look like..... :|
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Re: What's all the fuss about?

Postby lewisskinner » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:53 pm

I can change the boot options in BIOS to boot from the USB stick, but it won't do it :(

As for partition table, it seems screwy.

testdisk in Ubuntu liveCD shows the table correctly, but GParted is showing the windows installation partition as 50GB when it's actually 30GB. When I tried to reinstall Windows, I noticed that the Windows installer CD also thinks that the first partition is 50GB.

sudo fdisk -l reveals:
Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x6d242da1

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 3916 31455238+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 3917 33941 241175812+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3 33942 60409 212604210 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda4 60410 60801 3148740 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda5 36552 55840 154938829+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 55841 57145 10482381 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 57146 59104 15735636 83 Linux
/dev/sda8 59105 60409 10482381 83 Linux
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Re: What's all the fuss about?

Postby pch.shot » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:08 am

I would go with 50 gigs. Best two out of three.
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Re: What's all the fuss about?

Postby lewisskinner » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:50 am

pch.shot wrote:I would go with 50 gigs. Best two out of three.

It's definitely 30GB though! :)
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Re: What's all the fuss about?

Postby lewisskinner » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:51 am

Nick wrote:A Flea, A Fly, A Magpie, an' Bacon Flitch
Ist' Yorkshermans Coit of Arms
And t'reason they've chozzen these things so rich
Is becoss they hav'all speshal charms.
A Flea will bite whoivver it can-- An soa, my lads, will a Yorksherman!
A Fly will sup with Dick, Tom or Dan An' soa, by gow! will a Yorksherman!
A Magpie can talk for a terrible span -- An' soa an all, can a Yorksherman.
A Flitch is no gooid whol its hung, ye'll agree No more is a Yorksherman, don't ye see..

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Brilliant! Not heard that one before! :lol: :lol:

I always liked this:

See All, Hear All Say Nowt
Eat All, Drink All,Pay Nowt
And if ever tha does owt for nowt Allus do it for Thysen

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Re: What's all the fuss about?

Postby cowboy » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:08 am

Well..I can see by your list of your partitions..you need another HD to work with..
Since most knowledgable people back-up there data and files before installing or reinstalling a OS on there system..just start over using your live DVD create your windows partition and leave the rest blank for your Linux or what ever..aw hell while your at it just make the whole disk a Windows install and do a check disc to see if you have any bad sectors which will bork a install...also note that with alot of partitions..."Grub" has been known to fail or mess up a installation...this is not a Ultimate Edition problem but a "Grub" problem and it is documented..as a bug... :|
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Re: What's all the fuss about?

Postby lewisskinner » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:35 am

believe me, I was starting to reach this conclusion myself!

I am now able to boot into Vista, but my NTFS shared partition is crazy. However, Windows, and my ext3 /home (where my Ubuntu and Windows documents are stored) seems to have come out unscathed.

Using testdisk in the Ubuntu live CD:

Disk /dev/sda - 500 GB / 465 GiB - CHS 60801 255 63
Partition Start End Size in sectors
D HPFS - NTFS 0 1 1 3915 254 63 62910477 [Windows OS]
D HPFS - NTFS 0 1 13 3915 254 63 62910465
D HPFS - NTFS 2610 1 13 6525 254 63 62910465
D HPFS - NTFS 3915 254 51 7831 254 63 62910553
D HPFS - NTFS 3915 254 63 7831 254 63 62910541
D HPFS - NTFS 3916 0 1 33940 254 63 482351625
D Linux 3916 0 1 36550 254 63 524281275
D HPFS - NTFS 3916 0 9 33940 254 63 482351617
D HPFS - NTFS 6526 0 1 36550 254 63 482351625 [Media&Games]
D Linux 33941 1 1 55839 254 63 351807372 [Shared Data]
D Linux 50358 1 1 51662 254 63 20964762
L Linux 55840 1 1 57144 254 63 20964762
D Linux 57145 1 1 59103 254 63 31471272

I've no idea what that means, but it's total crap!

Here's how it ought to look:

Disk /dev/sda - 500 GB / 465 GiB - CHS 60801 255 63
Current partition structure:
Partition Start End Size in sectors

1 * HPFS - NTFS 0 1 1 3915 254 63 62910477 [Windows OS]
2 P HPFS - NTFS 3916 0 1 33940 254 63 482351625
3 E extended LBA 33941 0 1 60408 254 63 425208420
4 P Linux Swap 60409 0 1 60800 254 63 6297480
5 L Linux 33941 1 1 55839 254 63 351807372 [Shared Data]
X extended 55840 0 1 57144 254 63 20964825
6 L Linux 55840 1 1 57144 254 63 20964762
X extended 57145 0 1 59103 254 63 31471335
7 L Linux 57145 1 1 59103 254 63 31471272
X extended 59104 0 1 60408 254 63 20964825
8 L Linux 59104 1 1 60408 254 63 20964762
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Re: What's all the fuss about?

Postby cowboy » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:40 am

Let me reiterate, "just start clean" forget all the other bullsh.. other partitions and stick with the two OS you want to play with...real simple...You can only use one at a time... ;)
Edit....Do yourself a favor and pick up another HD to play with more..keep in mind when doing that it is recommended by myself when you install on that disconnect the other and change your boot option in the Bios to further eliminate future borks to the other installs...take that from an old man... ;)
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Re: What's all the fuss about?

Postby lewisskinner » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:41 pm

Thanks for the advice Cowboy. I will do so in the future, but as the bank balance is currently the major prohibiting factor in both my 3D and digital worlds, I need a short-term solution to fix what I have at the moment.
In a world without walls and fences, who need Windows and Gates?

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