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Re: Anyone With Problems, Please Read.
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Tue May 13, 2008 9:47 amby DaddyX3
Sorry to have to say this, but I think it was a mistake for Zero Prime to even post about upgrading your kernel. I understand that Hardy was pushed through and didn't really (IMHO) have the time needed to get all the little stuff worked out in it, this will change soon enough with regular updates. I read the posts in the Ubuntu Forums about this envy issue and read a really good post from one of the developers. Though everyone might want to read this. .....
SomeUbuntuAdminGuy wrote:A final note: at this point in time the -17 kernels are only available in the hardy-proposed repository. This is where bugfix updates to Hardy are pushed first, to recieve testing. As such, this repository is subject to the same sort of problems as an unstable release, but on a lesser scale. Everything should work in there, but it's explicitly for testing, so breakage may occur. In particular, this sort of breakage (where the kernel image is built but an associated package isn't yet built) is going to happen each time a new kernel ABI is pushed (the -17 part of the version string). You can't build the restricted modules without the new kernel, so there's an unavoidable period of time when the repository is in this state.
If you're going to run with the hardy-proposed repository enabled you should be treating it somewhat like running the development release, and be careful on updates. For most people it's better to not have hardy-proposed enabled, unless they want to test a bugfix for a specific bug they are seeing]A final note: at this point in time the -17 kernels are only available in the hardy-proposed repository. This is where bugfix updates to Hardy are pushed first, to recieve testing. As such, this repository is subject to the same sort of problems as an unstable release, but on a lesser scale. Everything should work in there, but it's explicitly for testing, so breakage may occur. In particular, this sort of breakage (where the kernel image is built but an associated package isn't yet built) is going to happen each time a new kernel ABI is pushed (the -17 part of the version string). You can't build the restricted modules without the new kernel, so there's an unavoidable period of time when the repository is in this state.
If you're going to run with the hardy-proposed repository enabled you should be treating it somewhat like running the development release, and be careful on updates. For most people it's better to not have hardy-proposed enabled, unless they want to test a bugfix for a specific bug they are seeing.
Re: Anyone With Problems, Please Read.
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Tue May 13, 2008 12:30 pmby cowboy
I agree with Daddy and hope no one takes offense...but enabling "purposed and backport" is like putting your final into the state of being a "Alpha"...be prepared to send the bug reports a then, for those who are affected try to fix..if you have the knowledge, or reinstall to get back to the final.
Re: Anyone With Problems, Please Read.
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Tue May 13, 2008 1:25 pmby brute
Thanks for the answers and or posts. Yeah I have done a ton of research on this issue, some people have no problems at all and others like myself run into a brick wall. I think for the moment I may put this new board away and save it for a rainy day. Maybe the problem simply lies in the fact the Operating systems have to play a little catch up.
Shame though, works flawlessly on Windows XP........Rats!!!!!
Re: Anyone With Problems, Please Read.
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Tue May 13, 2008 7:21 pmby Zero Prime
I have no prob at all with DaddyX3 making the edit. I'm glad someone caught this. We are nothing without checks and balances. What works for some may not work for all. It seems as though I and a lucky few had good things happen while others didn't. From what I've noticed through out the posts it seems as though things aren't working right with newer hardware while those with older hardware got a performance boost. For those who had these probs I apologize.
Re: Anyone With Problems, Please Read.
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Tue May 13, 2008 10:38 pmby TheeMahn
cowboy wrote:Before everyone goes head first..did the upgrade..everything is not faster at least with me...
glxgears..yesterday...today
Damn brother, I did not look at the numbers your 1 card is faster then 2 nvidia 7600 gt's @ 32X (SLI), toss 3 more in there (wait until support is there, I don't want to lose you to windows) and you are complaining why? Do not drop another card in your rig until *nix supports crossfire... That is mad numbers... All I looked at is the complaint... I seen my first game that drops my machine to its knees, I will toss 2 more in there and not worry about it for 2 to 4 years. And prey for nix support, they will have no choice. If I owned AMD or ATI both the same entity, would you like it if you owned it all I searched for "Crossfire" in google and my site shows up #1, to bash them? Sure they would like to sue me, but cant as long as what I provide the truth. They better get it in gear. Just me posting here their name is being ran through the mud... TOPIC "Anyone With Problems, Please Read" Google associates this. I am sorry I am thousands of posts behind, probably ~5000 behind, I might as well hang it all up...
TheeMahn
Re: Anyone With Problems, Please Read.
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Tue May 13, 2008 11:34 pmby cowboy
I am not complaining one bit..was showing the 17 kernel was not faster at least now in my set up....Lose me to Windows..??? when pigs fly..by themself's...
I am happy...Ultimate Edition screams...check out Daddy's #'s he is screaming also'''
Re: Anyone With Problems, Please Read.
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Fri May 16, 2008 8:29 pmby TheeMahn
lol, please hang with me, we still have no support for crossfire I will wake up AMD / ATI watch & see, they will get on the ball or lose customers with the quickness. When I say something is going to happen as far as net does it not time and time happen? I will be #1 for terms of "cross fire" and call it junk, if they do not wake up, I have your back. They better get on the ball. The campaign is already in order. The page seen is totally up to them at this point. Either I will instruct how to get crossfire working or slam it period. I have written SLI howto in the past, I did not try to take down NVidia, they did their job. I have taken down M$, I hope all can see what I refer to.
TheeMahn
Re: Anyone With Problems, Please Read.
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Tue May 27, 2008 12:29 pmby mrmond
I'm just slightly confused after reading this thread.
In my software sources I have recommended & important checked. proposed & unsupported is unchecked.
Yet after installing I had a load of updates to install & my kernel on reboot now says 1.7 kernel installed.
Does this mean it's now considered ok ?
MrMond
Re: Anyone With Problems, Please Read.
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Tue May 27, 2008 12:38 pmby cowboy
Yes..it is safe..And Welcome to Ultimate Edition...that thread was started a while back ago and the kernel was not released as a final..word of caution do not check them..proposed & unsupported, unless you do know what you are doing...
Re: Anyone With Problems, Please Read.
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Wed May 28, 2008 10:39 amby EisBlade
I suppose I would have a problem if I could even get Ultimate Edition 1.8 installed, which is my problem, actually. Grub issues....grrrr.
My goal is to be able to dual boot between Ultimate Edition 1.8 and XP; using one SATA drive for XP and the other for Ultimate Edition. Since I've been having install issues with Ultimate Edition I've disconnected the XP SATA drive. I'm running an Intel Duo2 Quad PC with 2Gb RAM and NVIDIA 7600, and note that there is no sound when running Ultimate Edition live, but can worry about that later I suppose.
So, grub won't install. I don't get the error message til the end of the install process, and I labor over restarting the Install process over and over again to try something new. No luck. Grub isn't installing to /dev/sda nor will it install to /dev/sda where I created a 75Mb partition for /boot (which I've never done before but figured "What the heyyy". Is it me, Ultimate Edition 1.8, or something to do with SATA drives? Any workarounds? And yes, I do need to dual boot to XP for MS Access database development for work .
I don't care how the dual boot is configured, whether booting to the windows boot manager or to Grub, I just want the choice. Heck, right now I can't even get Ultimate Edition installed and it boot by itself with one SATA installed. Anyone?
Much appreciated!
JT