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Themes not applying system wide

PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:25 pm
by Zaileion
When I switch to Mate, and apply a theme below Ultimate Editionb 3.0 such as Ultimate Edition 2.6 or 2.6 the theme applies fine but anything that is "root" is not themed. ive tried several different options on Google, and none of them work.

I greatly enjoy the Ultimate Edition 2.5 and 2.6 themes but they only work half way. is there a way to fix this issue?

Issue:
Themes not applying system wide.

Ultimate Edition 3.4.2
Mate Desktop

Re: Themes not applying system wide

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:29 am
by pam
Off-Topic :
Welcome to the horrible world of Desktop wars or more appropriately-- zombification.

There was gnome 2.3x.
Then there is mate.
There is cinnamon.
There is gnome 3(gnome-shell).

Anything based on gtk2 have their throats cut and are still walking around. Xfce is about the only one left.

From gtk2 to gtk3... is a major phase change.

The entire GTK structure has been fractured. Most of the older stuff is deprecated.

A theme designed for gnome 2.3x is based on an older engine and libraries. These themselves are built using an older gcc. Mate is not gnome 2. There is no promised compatiblility.

And then you have the compositor....a.k.a.....compiz. The old Compiz is dead.
In newer gnome 3 and kde 4.10...compiz does not exist...thats not exactly true....the code has been canabalized directly into the desktop....and does not exist as a third party program...again backfiring to gtk.

And yet again you have Opengl. Opengl governs correct compositing of the desktop. Which again commandeers the theme engines. AMD has all efforts directed to HSA(Opencl). Modern updates to opengl are held back(for radeon cards)...its been six months since any major update or bug fixes...

Its all basically like a nervous system failing or trying to restart.
All your other problems are correlated.

Note:Nvidia cards(both old and new) have by far Exceptional linux Desktop functionality.


All the above gibberish just so to tell you, mate is excellent but use newer themes. Some themes are old and wont stick. Use a different theme. As far is root is concerned, i dont think you can log into ubuntu as root user...or maybe i did not understand correctly...

Re: Themes not applying system wide

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:04 pm
by Zaileion
OK, so out of that i got the following:

compiz is no longer supported in its original form. Terrible. Its by far the most advanced and comprehensive composite manager available.

and AMD cards are not so good for Linux, get Nvidia... which i just may do... as i am extremely unhappy with ati/amd.

I noticed the theme "gtkrc" files are different between gtk2 and gtk3, so much so i cant even try to blend them together... (which i tired and failed miserably..)

As for the root thing, i failed to properly explain. when i apply a theme, lets just use Ultimate Edition 2.6 for example, the theme applies to the menus and the panel, but if i open up a file manager as root, Nautilus is theme-less, or if i open up Control Center its theme-less or any other interaction i make with elevated privileges is theme-less. i assume thats because the themes are not made for gtk3 which is what MATE is built on... Correct?

Here is a link to another post with a screenshot of the issue i am having. notice several of the areas are white.
viewtopic.php?f=123&t=9535&p=79682#p79682

I also noticed that 3.5.2 has 2 different choices for appearance settings in the Control Center, where as 3.4.2 does not and i also noticed TheeMan has posted something about a theme repair tool and this leads me to believe that the 2nd tool thats in 3.5.2 and not in 3.4.2 is this tool he has created. is there a way for me to d/l that tool and apply it to 3.4.2.

Re: Themes not applying system wide

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:01 am
by pam
Any program opened as root, pulls out the config files from the root's home folder.
The theme the user uses will not be applied on the root owned dialogs. The root user uses a basic default theme.
Otherwise as root user edit the config files to change the default theme.

Here's how to change:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/57990/se ... plications

Ofcourse the gtk2/gtk3 retardation still exists here.