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Newbie Question in relation to backups

Postby S3KshuN8 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:08 am

I have a laptop set up to dual-boot Ultimate Edition 3.6 lite and Win7 and I have a USB hard drive formatted ext4 that I'm using for backups with CloneZilla. The first backup checked out fine but the second backup failed. I want to delete the one that failed but I'm not root so it won't let me. Should I just reformat the USB drive as NTFS and try again? I'd rather not lose the one good backup even though it's already outdated.
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Re: Newbie Question

Postby pam » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:28 am

A FAT filesystem is almost(99.9%) compatible with every OS...by that i mean you have read-write access.
NTFS is windows only.

gnome-disks by default will format to FAT...it will explicitly tell you it is compatible with all filesystems(in case you want to access some data from the backed up drive on a windows session).

By doing disk checks and making sure viruses do not enter the drive, rest assured, your data will last a really long time using FAT.

Note: Absolutely no guarantees on data loss/disk-crashes etc. As long as your disk does not crash; deleted data and corrupted data can easily be sucked out off your disk. ;)
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Re: Newbie Question

Postby S3KshuN8 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:17 pm

Well, being that the USB drive is 4GB I went ahead and made it NTFS. CloneZilla has no problem writing to it. After I finally got a good backup I ran a surface scan on it and found 2 bad sectors.
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Re: Newbie Question

Postby pam » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:29 pm

On a flash disk, its not possible to isolate "bad sectors". It works only for mechanical hdd.

Nonetheless try using dd:
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sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX

..where X is your flash disk. It will fill up with zeros. It will erode any previous data stored(irrecoverable).
Next use gnome-disks or gparted to create a partition, after that format it.

Again as far bad sectors go on a flash disk, nothing you can do about. Flash memory fails without warning.
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Re: Newbie Question

Postby S3KshuN8 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:38 am

No it's a physical hard disk with spinning platters and everything. :D It came from an older laptop, which I had upgraded after a crashed hard drive (I blame gravity).
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Re: Newbie Question

Postby pam » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:45 am

S3KshuN8 wrote:No it's a physical hard disk with spinning platters and everything. :D It came from an older laptop, which I had upgraded after a crashed hard drive (I blame gravity).


As long as the drive dont have any bad sectors, it'll work just fine. No worries <BREW>
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Re: Newbie Question

Postby S3KshuN8 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:54 am

I'll check it again to see if it picks up any new ones, sometimes it takes a few passes to get them all...
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Re: Newbie Question in relation to backups

Postby S3KshuN8 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:03 am

I do have another question. The primary reason for installing Ultimate Edition is to get QB64 running in linux. It requires some SDL libraries and the g++ compiler. I found and downloaded g++ but it requires a C++ compiler, which is not present in the Ultimate Edition 3.6 lite currently installed. Should I just wait until I have 3.8 installed before I even bother with this part?
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118GB SSD, 111GB HDD; 232GB HDD; 465GB USB HDD
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Re: Newbie Question in relation to backups

Postby pam » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:10 am

Ultimate Edition 3.8 is much sturdier than 3.6. Its a stable OS.

Yes, please do wait and get 3.8 running and then run qb64.
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Re: Newbie Question in relation to backups

Postby S3KshuN8 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:17 pm

Does 3.8 have a C compiler for g++ to use?
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200GB HDD (dual-boot) Win 7 64-bit and U E 5.0 64-bit

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118GB SSD, 111GB HDD; 232GB HDD; 465GB USB HDD
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