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Usb boot problem

Postby copain » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:21 pm

Can anyone please help me regarding the matter of usb booting of ultimate.
I have a storejet 320 gb usb hdd. I want to boot a full Ultimate edition 2.5 from it.
Is it possible to boot ultimate edition from usb hdd?
It will be great if you help me.
Thanks in advance
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Re: Usb boot problem

Postby masternetra » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:28 pm

It is. I'm on it via USB drive (4GB) though my issue is in installation device list isn't loading. LiveCD seems to work just fine, used Ubuntu 9.10's "USB Startup Disk Creator" to put it on the USB drive.
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Re: Usb boot problem

Postby JOHNNYG » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:13 pm

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Re: Usb boot problem

Postby copain » Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:01 am

Thnx for your replies
The main problem is my usb hdd is not loading during install from live cd.but i can see it as drives why it is so.?how can i install directly to it from a live cd.?
If i install Ultimate Edition to my internal hard disk then clone it to my usb hdd,then will it boot from my usb hdd?
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Re: Usb boot problem

Postby DarkChild » Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:05 am

Yes it should work if done the correct way!! A good application to use is Clonezilla LiveCD works perfect all the time.
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Re: Usb boot problem

Postby razy60 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:50 am

Hi, If you use unetbootin as johnnyg suggested, all you need to do is load it from the .iso in your PC. The program has an option you can either download the program then use that to download the relevent .iso onto the usb or if you have the .iso in your PC then use the program to load it. It is fairly simple to use.

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Re: Usb boot problem

Postby Clueless » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:33 am

copain wrote:Thnx for your replies
The main problem is my usb hdd is not loading during install from live cd.but i can see it as drives why it is so.?how can i install directly to it from a live cd.?
If i install Ultimate Edition to my internal hard disk then clone it to my usb hdd,then will it boot from my usb hdd?


DarkChild wrote:Yes it should work if done the correct way!! A good application to use is Clonezilla LiveCD works perfect all the time.


Hi DarkChild,

If he/she does the above, upon first installation to internal HD will it not overwrite Windows MBR with Grub?
And then will Grub end up on cloned drive causing the machine to boot into Windows only if USB hd is connected?
I'm still pretty vague on how grub works :oops: :)

EDIT: Assuming that Windows on the machine in the first place.
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Re: Usb boot problem

Postby DarkChild » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:02 am

JerryCornelius wrote:If he does the above, upon first installation to internal HD will it not overwrite Windows MBR with Grub?
And then will Grub end up on cloned drive causing the machine to boot into Windows only if USB hd is connected?
I'm still pretty vague on how grub works :oops: :)



The external wouldn't pose a problem because he can always unplug it when he wants to boot into windows. All hes going to do is to go into his bios and tell the system which hd to boot from.

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Simply put, what he needs to do is to remove or disconnect is internal hd drive and leave the external plugin and see what happens when he tries to install the os.
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Re: Usb boot problem

Postby Clueless » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:10 am

DarkChild wrote:
JerryCornelius wrote:If he does the above, upon first installation to internal HD will it not overwrite Windows MBR with Grub?
And then will Grub end up on cloned drive causing the machine to boot into Windows only if USB hd is connected?
I'm still pretty vague on how grub works :oops: :)



The external wouldn't pose a problem because he can always unplug it when he wants to boot into windows. All hes going to do is to go into his bios and tell the system which hd to boot from.

OR

Simply put, what he needs to do is to remove or disconnect is internal hd drive and leave the external plugin and see what happens when he tries to install the os.


Yeah, but what I was worried about is, if it is also a windows machine, what will happen to the windows MBR when installing Ultimate Edition on the internal? I would assume it would get over written by GRUB which would then get cloned to external leaving no Boot records for the machine to read (I'm kind of poking around in the dark here!!).
I had a similar problem when I did a full (not live) install to a flash drive, I forgot to tell Ultimate Edition where to put GRUB so it put it on the flash and lappy would only boot with it inserted.

By the way; Hi Copian :D DarkChild knows MUCH more than me when it comes to Linux. I'm a newb, anything I say is often a little vague :lol:
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Re: Usb boot problem

Postby copain » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:34 am

Hi guyz ..i didnt use unetbootin bcoz it needs iso .it doesnt work with live cd..also i have a doubt
will it make a full working ubuntu same as what we get on installation to internal hard drive..?
Actually i have dos and windows 7 booting from my usb hdd and many mther iso also..I need Ultimate Edition also.i will configure the grub accordingly.
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