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KDE login

Postby Chalawah » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:27 pm

Hi,

I have carried out a full clean install of UE2.5 [after really enjoying UE2.4]. D/l the 2.5 iso, checked the MD5sum > all ok and installed etc.

I can boot up and log in to Gnome without any problems. However, when I boot up to login screen, enter my user name and password, then select KDE and enter, then KDE desktop starts to build then crashes back to the log in screen.

I also noticed that I have two Gnomes listed in the options. Doesn't make any difference which one I choose to use as both login ok to the Gnome desktop and all appears to be functioning.

I tested again by re-d/l another UE2.5 >then MD5sum > total clean install = same issues as above.

I am installing on separate partitions as /boot, /, /home and /swap. All ext4. I have formatted and each install attempt.

Could anyone offer some advise/nudge me in the right direction to try and resolve this issue? [I am still very new to Ultimate Edition/linux but keen to learn so I will prob ask really basic Qs if I cannot understand any suggestions].

Cheers,

Chalawah.
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Re: KDE login

Postby DarkChild » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:31 pm

Hello Chalawah.

It would be a good idea if you could post the crash log or message that you got when you tried to login so that we can be of better assistance!!
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Re: KDE login

Postby Chalawah » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:50 pm

Hi,

Ok. Crash log. Hmm where do I get that... ah ha, var log - but which one? [There was no message displayed on the KDE desktop during the crash].


Chalawah
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Re: KDE login

Postby DarkChild » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:55 pm

Chalawah wrote:Hi,

Ok. Crash log. Hmm where do I get that... ah ha, var log - but which one? [There was no message displayed on the KDE desktop during the crash].


Chalawah


Tell you what then, if you can create/use another use account to try an log in the kde desktop shell to see if you get the same thing, that would be a good point to start!!
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Re: KDE login

Postby Chalawah » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:05 pm

DarkChild wrote:
Chalawah wrote:Hi,
Ok. Crash log. Hmm where do I get that... ah ha, var log - but which one? [There was no message displayed on the KDE desktop during the crash].
Chalawah


Tell you what then, if you can create/use another use account to try an log in the kde desktop shell to see if you get the same thing, that would be a good point to start!!


Hi, created new test account. Same issue present. KDE desktop starts to build then crashed with no warning message displayed on the desktop. I can view logs in my main user account using the program 'KSystemLog'. Should I be using this s/w to try and view a log?

Chalawah.
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O/S HDD: WD Caviar Black 1Tb WD1FAEX 64mb Cache SATA 3 [ntfs + ext4]
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External HDD [eSATA/USB storage/backup]: WD Green 1.5TB 64mb Cache [ext4] & Seagate 1TB Desktop [ext4] & Seagate 1TB Desktop [NTFS]

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Re: KDE login

Postby DarkChild » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:15 pm

Give it a go and post back the findings here.
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Re: KDE login

Postby Chalawah » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:32 pm

DarkChild wrote:Give it a go and post back the findings here.


Can you be a bit more specific...for example,I could cut and paste logs from Sys log, Kernel log, Authentication log, Daemons log, Xorg log. If I did all these I'd prob have to post multi-times due to size!

Cheers, Chalawah.
Dual Boot O/S: PCTrends OS x64 & Windows 7 - 64bit
Intel® Core™ i3-530
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT330 768 MB GDDR3
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O/S HDD: WD Caviar Black 1Tb WD1FAEX 64mb Cache SATA 3 [ntfs + ext4]
2nd HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 1Tb 7K1000C [ext4 + ntfs]
External HDD [eSATA/USB storage/backup]: WD Green 1.5TB 64mb Cache [ext4] & Seagate 1TB Desktop [ext4] & Seagate 1TB Desktop [NTFS]

Yes, its a tweaked Aldi Medion i3 E4360D
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Re: KDE login

Postby DarkChild » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:42 pm

To make like easier just do the following in a Terminal:

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sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop


Then: Go to you home directory and hold the "Ctrl" key and hit "H" on your keyboard. Doing that will enable you to view the hidden contents of the home directory/folder. Then delete the following:
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/etc/kde4
/home/ilias/.kde/


Then run the following in a Terminal:

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sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
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Re: KDE login

Postby Chalawah » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:13 pm

DarkChild wrote:To make like easier just do the following in a Terminal:

Code: Select all
sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop


Then: Go to you home directory and hold the "Ctrl" key and hit "H" on your keyboard. Doing that will enable you to view the hidden contents of the home directory/folder. Then delete the following:
Code: Select all
/etc/kde4
/home/ilias/.kde/


Then run the following in a Terminal:

Code: Select all
sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop


Hi DarkChild, thanks for the assist.

I have successfully 'sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop'.

Weird thing next is, going to my 'Home Folder' and viewing hidden contents, I see no '/etc/kde4' or '/home/ilias/.kde/'

If I go to the folder [with the harddrive icon] - I think this is refered to the as the 'Root Folder' - I can see, 'etc' folder, this contains '/etc/kde4/kdm..............' . If I run nautilus as root I should be able to delete this. Yes, I have now successfully deleted '/etc/kde4'.

I cannot find any folder '/home/ilias/.kde/' at all :cry: So, after this stage I went and 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'.

I will reboot and see what happens and post result back.

Chalawah
Last edited by Chalawah on Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:04 am, edited 2 times in total.
Dual Boot O/S: PCTrends OS x64 & Windows 7 - 64bit
Intel® Core™ i3-530
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4 GB 1 DDR3 SDRAM
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O/S HDD: WD Caviar Black 1Tb WD1FAEX 64mb Cache SATA 3 [ntfs + ext4]
2nd HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 1Tb 7K1000C [ext4 + ntfs]
External HDD [eSATA/USB storage/backup]: WD Green 1.5TB 64mb Cache [ext4] & Seagate 1TB Desktop [ext4] & Seagate 1TB Desktop [NTFS]

Yes, its a tweaked Aldi Medion i3 E4360D
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Re: KDE login

Postby Chalawah » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:30 pm

Hi there,

And the result is..... same issue. KDE crashes at the same point during the very initial loading of KDE desktop. Gnome is working fine.

Did I miss something in DarkChild's instructions? Which set of logs should I be studying to glean some more info?

Your time and assist valued!

Cheers, Chalawah.
Dual Boot O/S: PCTrends OS x64 & Windows 7 - 64bit
Intel® Core™ i3-530
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT330 768 MB GDDR3
4 GB 1 DDR3 SDRAM
Wireless LAN3 IEEE 802.11 n-Standard. Network Controller Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mbit/s.
O/S HDD: WD Caviar Black 1Tb WD1FAEX 64mb Cache SATA 3 [ntfs + ext4]
2nd HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 1Tb 7K1000C [ext4 + ntfs]
External HDD [eSATA/USB storage/backup]: WD Green 1.5TB 64mb Cache [ext4] & Seagate 1TB Desktop [ext4] & Seagate 1TB Desktop [NTFS]

Yes, its a tweaked Aldi Medion i3 E4360D
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