VNC? Get v11vnc & Remmina- [SOLVED]

by **linuxux** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:39 pm

Server:

x11vnc

http://www.karlrunge.com

Client:

Remmina

http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=4003

http://remmina.sourceforge.net/downloads.shtml

I have 2 Ultimate Edition 2.3 boxes.

When I open KRDC and try to connect, I lose local keyboard (yes on the client). I just did this a second ago, the remote server is not running right now, so it just had the blank screen, and while that was "connected" I could not use the keyboard to type here in the forum.

I tried to install tightvnc and vnc through synaptic but they don't show on the start menu.

Edited to put final results on the top here.

by **linuxux** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:01 pm

Also, with KRDC, the local showed NOT connected but the remote showed it was connected.

So I installed the gnome remote viewer (grdc), which btw has the same name on the start menu as krdc........
GRDC does connect and sorta-kinda shows the remote desktop... It wants to do double-image, it doesn't scale, it doesn't change low/med/high compression until restart, and it doesn't seem to know when a window was moved... on connect, it takes one screenshot and stops updating video.

Not sure what to do, I just wanted a simple remote access.

by **linuxux** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:42 pm

I guess if you want quick and easy, it'll cost ya $199 usd. http://www.symantec.com/business/products/purchasing.jsp?pcid=2247&pvid=840_1

The "remote desktop viewer" in linux *is* vnc, not a very good implementation, but possibly better than 200 for a license. 2+ hours wasted already on this makes me wonder.

The Linux tools are missing some things.
- There's no option to disconnect on close window, it minimizes to the system tray.
- The server doesn't have any options to say "hey you are already connected!" at least not in the gui options.
- You can setup multiple vnc servers with :10 :34 whatever, but the gui doesn't show the active ones (and not sure how to see from command line?)
- The gui is completely unreliable. I'm not connected at all right now but it shows I am.
- Nowhere can you 'disconnect client'
- The title should include VNC.

by **linuxux** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:58 pm

Is there a free alternative that works?

by **tchk** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:09 am

i"m no linux pro and i'm sure you know more than me
but i've used the "remote desktop" that's preinstalled on "Ultimate Edition" and it works bangin
sometimes if the other persons pc is a turd or their isp is crappy it's a little laggy

I guess if you want quick and easy, it'll cost ya $199 usd. http://www.symantec.com/business/produc ... pvid=840_1

The "remote desktop viewer" in linux *is* vnc, not a very good implementation, but possibly better than 200 for a license. 2+ hours wasted already on this makes me wonder.

whats quicker and easier than it being pre installed?

The Linux tools are missing some things.
- There's no option to disconnect on close window, it minimizes to the system tray.

i use the close button to disconnect

- The server doesn't have any options to say "hey you are already connected!" at least not in the gui options.
you can tell who's connected by the tabs at the top of the page which is also how you can close them
- You can setup multiple vnc servers with :10 :34 whatever, but the gui doesn't show the active ones (and not sure how to see from command line?)
the tabbed windows show your connections

- The gui is completely unreliable. I'm not connected at all right now but it shows I am.
i don't think it's showing you connected, but just as a possible connection, the connections are on the tabs in the window like firefox [see previos pic]
as far as reliability, i connect and control desktop, disconnect and done no problem. what kind of hardware are you runnin and what kind is the pc your connected to runnin, because when i connect to my mom and brother who both have the same isp but my moms pc is a turd so her connection is a little laggy but my brothers works great with his higher end pc
- Nowhere can you 'disconnect client'
- The title should include VNC.
maybe the keyboard is tring to control the desktop you opened instead of yours if you minimize remote desktop
can you use your keyboard then? also are both machines configured correctly?
system>preferences>remote desktop

allow incoming connections
allow others to control desktop
password confirm etc.
so i hope somehow i might have helped i'm just sharing my personal experience with remote desktop viewer

by **linuxux** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:01 pm

x11vnc by http://www.karlrunge.com
It is the sniz compared to all other linux vnc. For the server.
The first thing you want to do with x11vnc is find the GUI command, most forum posts dont mention it, and the x11vnc --help is about 500 pages, it's buried in there. x11vnc -gui not a pretty gui but much much better than command line guesswork using the 100s of features.

There are ways to make the x11vnc send lower res, but I have not had time to sort that out yet. It's surely simple as 123... er finding 123 in a row in pi. With a pencil.

by **linuxux** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:19 pm

Output from x11vnc --help

If it's just plain too long for the forum, mods rip it.

nvm.. Your message contains 259625 characters. The maximum number of allowed characters is 145000.

Anyway it includes lots of examples and interesting things, like this...

Most of the X11 (screen, keyboard, mouse)
options do not make sense and many will cause this
mode to crash, so please think twice before setting or
changing them in a running x11vnc.

by **linuxux** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:08 pm

My experience with various clients...
Your experience will most likely vary. But. The last one, Remmina, does it all. (just discovered this one...)

xvncviewer

tsclient

krdc

At login, it likes to blast connections, 100s, locks up and crashes.
gtkvncviewer

gnome-rdp

Didn't run, cryptic dump and command line)
directvnc

Crashed. vDirectFBError [DirectFBCreate( &dfb )]: Initialization error!
vinagre

grdc

http://grdc.sourceforge.net/

Remmina

http://remmina.sourceforge.net/downloads.shtml

I might just be set on Remmina