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installing multiple distros - partitioning questions

Postby Fyra » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:14 pm

I've been playing around with some of the other versions of ubuntu (o.O) just because I was a bit bored, and having finally deleted Win XP, had 50gb of free space. I loaded up gparted, created two ~20gb ext4 partitions, and 2 ~4gb swap partitions. I installed ubuntu studio to one, and xubuntu to the other, just to play around with each a bit.

Anyway, I noticed during one of the installs, that it detected all three swap partitions, and didn't seem to bother distinguishing between them. Which brings me to my first question:
Do I need a separate swap partition for each linux version I have installed, or will they share the same one?


I also noticed some advice from someone on another forum, or perhaps a magazine blog. They said I should put /home onto a separate partition, as it will make my life easier. This makes sense (though I'd like to hear your opinions also), and I can probably even work out how to do that on my own :? if I play around with it for a while, but I am wondering how that will interfere with the other distros that I may have installed at whatever time.

Basically, I'm looking to reinstall everything, and I'm looking for advice on how best to partition everything. Here is the rough plan I have:
Total: 150gig drive (laptop)
Swap: 4gb
20gb free space on a partition which I will use to test other linux distros on, if I ever feel like doing so. I will probably have xubuntu on this most of the time, as a kind of backup OS.

Then the rest, divided into:
/home <-- what size?
/ <-- the main root partition where UE2.3 is installed - what size?
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Re: installing multiple distros - partitioning questions

Postby Cell » Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:41 pm

Do I need a separate swap partition for each linux version I have installed


Nope.Rule of thumb is make swamp twice as much as physical ram.

I also noticed some advice from someone on another forum, or perhaps a magazine blog. They said I should put /home onto a separate partition


I always do this...unless I'm doing some testing sometimes.

Maybe this will give you an idea.I loaded up just about everything under the sun(from testing,and helping here on the forum).As you can see I don't have much space left in my /home...the bottom partition.My / partition is quite large,and not using much space(really have no idea why I made it so large).This is on my laptop.Like I said I have anything I need,and then some for media,office,testing,net,graphics,ect....more than what I really need.
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Re: installing multiple distros - partitioning questions

Postby Pierre » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:12 am

Nope.Rule of thumb is make swap twice as much as physical ram.


No more than 1000Mb though (32bit) :)

& about 10 - 20 Gb for each O/S that you want to play with & the same size for /home.

Make the O/S that you like the most, the Last to be installed - use that menu.lst to select the other O/Ss on the list.

Post back if you want to know how to do the partitioning of your drive.
( before installing anything)
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Re: installing multiple distros - partitioning questions

Postby billhedrick » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:46 am

I am currently running Windows 7 as my main, but I want to re-install Ultimate Edition (and possibly a Debian) but I figure M$ has fracked up the MBR _just_ enough to make that really tough. Any experience out there? I have a multi HD system, with XP and Xubuntu on one drive, & on the next and a free IDE drive for Linux.
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Re: installing multiple distros - partitioning questions

Postby Cell » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:22 pm

Microsoft's os needs to be on the first drive...its a greedy son of a b. (doesn't have to be,but makes it a lot easer).It should also have its own mbr on its drive too....and don't mess with it when installing another os.
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Re: installing multiple distros - partitioning questions

Postby billhedrick » Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:07 pm

yea Cell, I figured that. I just wonder if installing Ultimate Edition (or any distro that uses grub) will bollix up my Windows 7 install.
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Re: installing multiple distros - partitioning questions

Postby Fyra » Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:57 pm

@Cell
Thanks for the reply, that helps a lot.

billhedrick wrote:I am currently running Windows 7 as my main, but I want to re-install Ultimate Edition (and possibly a Debian) but I figure M$ has fracked up the MBR _just_ enough to make that really tough. Any experience out there? I have a multi HD system, with XP and Xubuntu on one drive, & on the next and a free IDE drive for Linux.

I installed Ultimate Edition to my brothers computer yesterday. He is not using Windows 7 - but he is using Vista.
The dual boot went smoothly, though I did use gparted to shrink the Vista partition rather than the Ultimate Edition installer.
At any rate, Vista seems to work okay with grub, and I assume (maybe I should not) that windows 7 will also?
The worst that will happen is you needing to reinstall windows, I guess.
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Re: installing multiple distros - partitioning questions

Postby apc15x » Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:15 pm

I just installed Windows 7 on my system with not any real hassle. I did notice that it tried to take up a bit of hard drive space but was limited because I had Ultimate on the drive so it couldn't read all of it. I did install Windows 7 first and then I installed Ultimate 2.3 with no problem with the MBR or Grub. It really didn't didn't seem to take to long for installation about 30 -45 minutes. (I think) I must say that I was impressed with the installation, didn't have to hunt around my office for disk drivers and my system sound and printer drivers installed automatically. It won't replace Ultimate as far as I am concerned but it seems to work great in a dual boot system.
He are the minimum requirements per Microsoft for installation:
What you'll need:
A blank DVD
A PC with a DVD burner
A PC for testing with these system requirements:
1 GHz or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 GB RAM (32-bit) / 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
16 GB available disk space (32-bit) / 20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics processor with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
Hope that this helps.
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Re: installing multiple distros - partitioning questions

Postby Moebius » Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:09 am

+1 Here.
No issues at all. I let Ultimate Edition control everything, including the partitioning after Win7 was installed. Happily live with the three O/S's in my signature in harmony on one drive. :D

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Re: installing multiple distros - partitioning questions

Postby billhedrick » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:41 am

OK thanks for the reassurance. Here is the layout of drives in my system:
Primary Master IDE: 80GB (open, I replaced my DVD/RW with a SATA drive so I had 2 IDE slots and added this drive here

Secondary Master IDE: 40GB with Win XP and Xubuntu (Xub not seen)

Secondary Slave IDE: 60GB with Win 7 on it

SATA: 200GB storage drive

yea, I know get a fracking TB drive! well when I can afford it I will.

So the plan is to put it on the 80 and see if Grub picks up all 4 OSes
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