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far from jaunty's bug!!

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Re: far from jaunty's bug!!

Postby drama » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:12 am

TheeMahn wrote:I too see issues Xorg in their infinite wisdom have decided to remove support for accelerated graphics with ATI based Video cards I have 2 in my machine I build Ultimate Edition with... A true hassle in itself. I miss Compiz an issue I will resolve when I have time.


In all fairness if you are speaking of the fact that you cant use fglrx anymore. The blame for that goes to ati for deciding that any gpu not in they're hd series is "legacy". And just abandoning support. Its times like this that i wish ati would take a few pointers from nvidia. Yes nvidia places gpu's in the "legacy" category. But still updates them to support newer kernals and xservers when needed. Ati just basically said fu*k you.

I actually have compiz running on my x200 with the opensource driver. Now the original one tho. I posted a little piece about it in our chat room. second page from the end as of right now i believe. That driver may or may not work for you though. You could try adding "radeonhd" to xorg.conf too. I believe that driver works with your card (r500 core and up). Dont think crossfire works with the opensource drivers though. If your not happy with the performance of the opensource radeonhd driver (i think it has to be forced...defaults to radeon). That radeon-rewrite is worth a try. Took me from around 250fps up to nearly 800 now. Still tweaking xorg to see if i can sqeeze any more out.

I just hope that now that ati has discontinued support for a large number of they're gpu's they will now release the specs on them and we will get better opensource drivers. Only possible positive that can come out of the whole situation.
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Re: far from jaunty's bug!!

Postby Cell » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:51 pm

I just hope that now that ati has discontinued support for a large number of they're gpu's they will now release the specs on them



Lol........you know how many years it too to do that with my ATI 9800?
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Re: far from jaunty's bug!!

Postby drama » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:53 am

Cell wrote:
I just hope that now that ati has discontinued support for a large number of they're gpu's they will now release the specs on them



Lol........you know how many years it too to do that with my ATI 9800?


I agree. The thing there though is that prior to that ati was VERY resistant to releasing the specs on ANY of they're hardware. Not even the ancient rage128. But what im thinking is since they have already done it once (released specs up through r300 core i believe) maybe they will be more willing to do it again than what they were before. Current support in the open source ati driver for r400 and up as well as the early releases of the radeonHD driver was all reverse enginered. So having proper documents would only improve those drivers. There is also a few ati devs that work on the radeonHD (opensource) team. However its only for code pertaining to they're HD series which is fu*ked up because the radeonHD driver does support some cards outside of the ati's HD series of gpu's (x1200 and up i think "r500 core and newer"). Basically this ive come to the conclusion that ati is attempting to force ppl to upgrade to they're newer cards "HD series" if they want decent performance under *nix. Am i gonna upgrade? Yea you bet your ass. But i can promise you it wont be an ati card.
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Re: far from jaunty's bug!!

Postby Cell » Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:58 pm

Basically this ive come to the conclusion that ati is attempting to force ppl to upgrade to they're newer cards "HD series" if they want decent performance under *nix. Am i gonna upgrade? Yea you bet your ass. But i can promise you it wont be an ati card.


Hear Hear <BREW>

lol.Besides Ati doesn't have very good hd support in linux,while the green guys do.So why the hell would I buy an ATI hd card?.....I wouldn't either.


Oh ya.........The rage 128 was the first ATI card I bought....I still have it too.
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