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Re: Suggestions for Ultimate Edition 3.6

Postby pam » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:36 am

it means the following:
1> Cinnamon is immature. If enterprise dont use a particular desktop environment it will be a long time before it becomes usable.
2> The underlying OS is not well put together.
3> Drivers, most likely if your OS breaks when installing proprietary drivers it means something is wrong with OS build...which itself means many things
kernel being used also makes difference. If you get an OS working with prop drivers then that is SUCCESS.
4> Most linux and BSD software being used for real world scenarios are 'thrash' tested, which means they must not fail in the most extreme circumstances... Theemahn does it with Ultimate...on Arch which is rolling you have to do it..whereas the Debian guys have all the hardware they can get their hands on.....with Gentoo you have to make the glue before you can build the OS from the bottom up. :ugeek: .

Its a skill that takes years to develop and you must have a Nose(literally) that can smell something is wrong and troubleshoot your way through....if problem arises your best help is Google search, without pretense.

Something that looks good and works well on one system, will spell disaster on someone else's.

If icon size keeps changing or you get a disarrayed desktop its most likely a driver issue. Drivers need to work in tandem with Display manager, Desktop environment and compositor all together and in harmony...
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Re: Suggestions for Ultimate Edition 3.6

Postby BBOSAK2143 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:36 pm

Is why I always say you are brilliant Pam!!!! Am starting to think has been a hardware failure on my part. Think this OS of mine has been hiding the fact the one of my burners is shot!!! Mine wouldn't cut it for testing since as have said, no dice on all the admin stuff! The assembly is good, but the admin needs to be taken care of. I think I can find some of it, but probably not all!!! Still as have run it for over a month now, I call it very stable! Has been through the mill as I am always battling to get things working on Wine!!!! I win here and there but never have with MS Office 2010 or Streets and Trips. You have it covered Pam as it does come down to Cinnamon being a little immature. Xan you should try this buidling stuff, I mean you are much smarter than I am. I will bet you could solve many issues and hassles if you went on the building side! It is fun and a great learning experience, still as am a bit older and forget things at points, would bet you would not and would do an awesome job! Micro did a nice one, took a look at it and is still in vbox. Great idea and absolutely brilliant! Shows his awesome talent for this! Am very thankful still for everyone on here! Sure I do not have all the frills like the flames and all, but I hardly ever get a program that refuses to work! I like that part better!!!! It really came to light though last night with Cinnamon and what Pam has stated. See I have Unetbootin just like all Ultimate users. For a few months there has been no updates, now it started fading to the back. When I went to go use it would take a minute for it to open the window to search for the ISO. The other day, updated and now opens in 5 seconds flat! The point given is Cinnamon is generally behind everyone else with updates, then it takes a back seat just like Unetbootin did to me!!! Hence, Pam's statement of Cinnamon being immature is very accurate!!!! Just love keeping the ideas flowing!!!! Great to have this forum as everyone here thinks!!! Also everyone has a mind of their own and great ideas to boot!!! Still awesome to be part of all this!!!!
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Re: Suggestions for Ultimate Edition 3.6

Postby vicodincat » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:05 am

How about something like Super GRUB Disk 2 as the main GRUB, as it searches all your partitions and lets you boot into anything. This would be good for people that tinker with stuff like Android x86/Ultimate Edition/Win7 on one hd. Just a thought, but you guys seem to have this and it's awesome already. Keep kicking ass!! Much love and respect to all..

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Re: Suggestions for Ultimate Edition 3.6

Postby Xanayoshi » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:18 am

vicodincat wrote:How about something like Super GRUB Disk 2 as the main GRUB, as it searches all your partitions and lets you boot into anything. This would be good for people that tinker with stuff like Android x86/Ultimate Edition/Win7 on one hd. Just a thought, but you guys seem to have this and it's awesome already. Keep kicking ass!! Much love and respect to all..

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I always have Rescatux! with Supergrub 2 on hand, but grub should already hold all your partitions and boot any of those, although I have had issues with Puppy. The trick is to keep grub on each partition, Whichever partition you want as main, you update-grub on and it will pick up all the others. I am actually missing a couple on my first PC in specs, there is also Ultimate Edition 2.6.6 and Linux Mint KDE through their own external HDD's. Seriously though if you like supergrub 2 and experimenting with drives Rescatux gives a little more.

http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/

I think supergrub 2 is more of a rescue than a main bootloader but I could be wrong. I also have that on disc somewhere.
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Re: Suggestions for Ultimate Edition 3.6

Postby vicodincat » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:10 am

I downloaded Rescatux and SuperGRUB Disk 2. Both come together but I also downloaded the SGD2 iso and using Win7 and EasyBCD, which can boot bootable ISOs, I added an entry to the Win7 BCD and when I select Windows from the .97 GRUB, the EasyBCD boot menu comes up and I just select the SGBD2 option, and it loads that orangey GRUB2. That's how i'm currenty triplebooting my Acer Aspire One netbook Win7/Androidx86/Ultimate Edition 3.5 32bit..

Is that not a really good way?? I plan on investigating tomorrow..

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Re: Suggestions for Ultimate Edition 3.6

Postby Xanayoshi » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:29 am

vicodincat wrote:I downloaded Rescatux and SuperGRUB Disk 2. Both come together but I also downloaded the SGD2 iso and using Win7 and EasyBCD, which can boot bootable ISOs, I added an entry to the Win7 BCD and when I select Windows from the .97 GRUB, the EasyBCD boot menu comes up and I just select the SGBD2 option, and it loads that orangey GRUB2. That's how i'm currenty triplebooting my Acer Aspire One netbook Win7/Androidx86/Ultimate Edition 3.5 32bit..

Is that not a really good way?? I plan on investigating tomorrow..

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I see no reason why it wouldn't be good. Basically you are using easybcd instead of grub. Thank you for introducing me to something new. I will have to look into this more.
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Re: Suggestions for Ultimate Edition 3.6

Postby vicodincat » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:39 am

Sorry, didn't really mean to derail this thread but I just liked the thought of SuperGRUB2 Disk as the main GRUB for added compatibility.. Just a suggestion..

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Re: Suggestions for Ultimate Edition 3.6

Postby masta » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:33 pm

Get rid of cinnamon and all the rest on 3.5 then install mate 1.6 it rocks.
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Re: Suggestions for Ultimate Edition 3.6

Postby Xanayoshi » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:17 pm

masta wrote:Get rid of cinnamon and all the rest on 3.5 then install mate 1.6 it rocks.
just my two cents.



Ironically, I had trouble with Mate on 3.5.

That is basically what 3.4 lite is.
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Re: Suggestions for Ultimate Edition 3.6

Postby ryanvade » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:08 pm

What is so wrong with KDE?
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