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Recover Grub Loader

Help & support for Ultimate Edition 1.9


Re: Recover Grub Loader

Postby pch.shot » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:40 pm

Hey, buschbarber, when you get some time, set up your sytem as I suggested. All your operating systems on one hard drive and all your other data on the others. Then all you need to do is pick from the grub menu which operating system you want to use. You also can run Windows in virtualbox or vmplayer. Below is a screenshot of XP running inside Virtualbox.
A few other useful tools:
To backup and restore your Windows install: http://www.macrium.com/
To read and write to a Linux partition from within Windows: http://www.fs-driver.org/
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Re: Recover Grub Loader

Postby buschbarber » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:49 pm

I currently have the Analog monitor hooked up to the VGA port and I have a DVI out to HDMI in cable hooked between the DVI port on my 8400GS and the HDMI port on my Sony HDTV.

Are you saying I should try putting the DVI to VGA adapter on the DVI port of the 8400GS, connect the monitor to that, and leave the VGA port on the 8400GS open?

I had the HDTV connected to the DVI port on the 8400GS but there was no output to the TV.
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Re: Recover Grub Loader

Postby buschbarber » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:58 pm

If I run Windows in a Virtual Box, how will it handle the problem with the Nvidia card. Currently, I have to connect a monitor to the Integrated Intel graphics adapter, when I run Linux, and the HDTV connected to the Nvidia card when I run Windows. Will Windows still detect the Nvidia card and use the appropriate Nvidia drivers?
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Re: Recover Grub Loader

Postby pch.shot » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:03 pm

Virtualbox has it's own drivers for audio and video so you won't get full 3d or special effects. But for every day applications it works great. It is not for gamers!! There is usb support and file sharing as well.
I have a Nvidia card and have never had problems with it. I just install the driver that Ubuntu suggests and it worked after a reboot. Mind you it is an older one. I personally think a fresh install is in order. It sounds like a lot of tinkering has been done and it might be time to start from scratch again.
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Re: Recover Grub Loader

Postby buschbarber » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:53 pm

I tried connecting the monitor to the DVi port using the DVI to VGA adapter, as suggested. Linux will still not boot, on this machine, unless I set the BIOS Video default to Onboard. When Ubuntu boots, and I check the Hardware Drivers, it says that the Nvidia driver is Enabled, but nothing displays on the monitor connected to the Nvidia card.
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Re: Recover Grub Loader

Postby pch.shot » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:13 pm

Systems Windows XP Pro 32 bit & various Linux in Virtual Box and VMWare Player
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Re: Recover Grub Loader

Postby buschbarber » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:42 pm

With regard to the HD drives, these are SATA drives. My BIOS allows me to press F12 and choose which drive to boot from. I know the Setup program allows you to choose the Boot sequence (Floppy, CD, HD, etc.). With multiple HD's, it probably allows me to also choose which HD boots first. Not having much experience with the Boot Sequence of SATA drives vs IDE drives, I do not know how that is determined, but for now, it seems to know where the Grub menu is and presents that to me.

I successfully edited the Grub menu so the Titles were more meaningful. There is usually 3 menu options for Linux - Normal, Recovery, and Memtest.

When I first started playing with Linux, I set up a stable XP install, on one HD, a stable Ultimate 1.9 install, on another HD, and I left the third HD for anything new that came along. I thought it would be easier to just pull out an HD and replace it with a blank one if I needed to test something else and did not want to erase the previous HD.

This PC is a 3Ghz P4, but I am a long time Radio Control Aircraft pilot and I have a Flight Simulator that already taxes the PC's performance limits, in XP, so I need to keep XP as fast as possible, for now.

I should have multiple PC's- at least one for testing and one for my Flight Sim. Unfortunately, the Flight Sim needs a higher end machine and Linux does not like the combo of my Nvidia card and the 3Ghz P4 machine. Perhaps I should sell the P4 and build 2 new machines.
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Re: Recover Grub Loader

Postby LeadFingers » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:31 am

I've had the onboard Video hand me my tail on a few machines, anymore I try to make sure the Motherboard doesn't have video onboard.
I also run the Nvidia 8400 GS on my media box, I had to configure my Dvi using Nvidia Settings before it would work. While it does have onboard video, it's an Nvidia chip that uses the same driver, so there's no conflict.
I now have three different xorg.conf files that I switch between on a regular basis
1) just the monitor (Vga)
2) Monitor & projector
3) just projector (Dvi)

I have these set up to run from launchers on my desktop for convenience & speed, so yes it's possible to have different configurations, if you don't have driver conflict.

Your best bet to get the 8400 working...
open a terminal
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sudo nvidia-settings

Yes you need to start it from a terminal so you can open it as root.
If it detects your 8400 under GPU 0 or GPU 1 you're ok and can configure your Dvi
If not you're prolly pooched.
Select X Server Display Configuration
In the right hand pane under Model see if your HDTV is recognized
You may have to configure separate x screens and it will prolly take you more than one pass to get it right, this is why it's best to back-up your present working xorg.conf so you can always get back to your desktop quickly.
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Re: Recover Grub Loader

Postby buschbarber » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:21 am

Even though the Nvidia drivers appear to be Enabled,, when I run Nvidia X Server settings, from the System menu, or by using the command you gave me, I get the following.

You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.

If I run nvidia-xconfig, I get the following

rich@rich-desktop:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig

Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".

WARNING: The CorePointer device was not specified explicitly in the layout;
using the first mouse device.


WARNING: The CoreKeyboard device was not specified explicitly in the layout;
using the first keyboard device.

Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'

rich@rich-desktop:~$
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