Weird Problem...

[Tib]

Alright, I had a weird problem with my taskbars crashing randomly, and it seemed to be fixed, but I just ran a bunch of updates, and now it appears to be back....only, this time, I can't flick on System Monitor and kill the Gnome-Panel and have it restart, to fix the problem....I try to run it, and it just fails to start, so I ran it in the terminal, and it spits this out:

jonathan@Tib:~$ gnome-system-monitor

** (gnome-system-monitor:12935): WARNING **: SELinux was found but is not enabled.

terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::FileError'
Aborted
jonathan@Tib:~$

Anyone know what the heck is wrong? or how I can fix it? the gnome-panel is annoying, but it's easily corrected when it happens, as long as I can access the system monitor so I can kill the process >_>...


EDIT: AHHHHHH!!!!!...now I'm PISSED!....those updates also brought back the freaking 1 minute hang after clicking the shut-down button!!!!! what the hell!!....uhg....my 1.8 x64 was working so well until I ran those updates....I cannot believe this.....

[vinca]

yikes, i'm not updating any time soon... gee in terms of the gnome-panel issue, I reccomend you reinstall gnome-system-monitor. if that borks anything, just reinstall, that's the sensible thing to do. sorry I couldn't be of more help, mebbe someone else can.

[Tib]

good idea....lol....I didn't think to try reinstalling it.....I was too furious to stop and think .

[DaddyX3]

Do you have proposed and unsupported enabled in 'software sources' or something? Usually don't have problems like this unless I'm allowing those to be included with updates.

[Tib]

The only repo I have enabled outside of the default repo's, is the 1.8 Ultimate Edition Repo....I didn't add anything else...which is why I'm so frustrated....none of these problems were happening, and the taskbar one had even stopped after the previous round of updates, and I assumed since these were appearing on my list, that they were pretty much stable and ready for installation....it doesn't make any sense, I just did all these updates on my laptop (I assume they were the same updates, 1.8 x64 on both computers), and it's not having any of these problems.....although, now that I think about it, I was going to post about my laptop's battery....it all of a sudden seems to have lost 30% of it's ability, it used to run for over 3 hours on Linux, now it gets just under 2 hours, and the info on my battery in Linux, says the "Capacity" is only "66% (Poor)", but left charging, it doesn't max out to what that info says it should go to.....any ideas?


EDIT: No good, just tried reinstalling the gnome-panel and the gnome-system-monitor, they reinstalled fine, but the system monitor still spits out that error message, and I assume the taskbars are still going to crash (happens at randoms times...hasn't happened again yet)....

[DaddyX3]

Do you have proposed and unsupported enabled in 'software sources' or something? Usually don't have problems like this unless I'm allowing those to be included with updates.

What I was referring to there, was:

Do you have the one that is highlighted and the one under it 'ticked' enabled? You don't have to add anything to your repository list if you have enabled these in System>>Admin>>Software Sources.
Sometimes things just don't get written write in the install and you end up with garbage. If the re-install of your packages didn't help, maybe a reinstall of 1.8?

[Tib]

Nope...like I said, I didn't mess with the repo's at all other than add the Ultimate Edition Repo, my settings page looks exactly the same as the screenshot you posted, these updates were all from the normal, "stable" repo's, I don't know which updates they were, but I scrolled through the list (like 100 different updates...was like 140MB), most were lib-something's, which I assume are library files....and I REALLY don't want to reinstall 1.8....reinstalling on my laptop wasn't a big deal, cause I hadn't done much on it, but my desktop.....meh......is there any way to do a remove and then reinstall of the system monitor and panel? without damaging anything?
In doing some research, I also found that 1.8 uses AppArmor....I don't know what all this info means, but seeing as how when I try to run System Monitor, it spits out that SELinux is installed, but not enabled.....and if I try to install SELinux, it tells me that AppArmor will be removed?.....is there a conflict somewhere between the two that's causing my problem? maybe one of these latest updates added something that is making my 1.8 confused as to which is supposed to be used?......I have no idea....I'm just kinda tossing out info and hoping someone has an idea >_>......OH THEEMAHN! WHERE FOR ART THOU! lol.

[vinca]

there is the talk to theemahn section.... I personally don't know a thing about this

[SaddleTramp]

This may explain part of what's going on there Tib
SELinux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux
AppArmor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppArmor

They're both Security Modules that can be added. Since they are separate applications, then that is where any conflicts would arise. It's one of those things where 2 different security apps will fight against each other (you might say) to control the security environment. Kinda like trying to run McAfee & Norton antivirus's together, causing conflicts and annoyances to an OS installation. So in that since, either you would have to choose to run SELinux or AppArmor, but not both. Hope this helps...

[Tib]

lol, well see....thing is, I already know all that....my problem is this....I know 1.8 has AppArmor, and as far as that error goes, it LOOKS like somehow I have SELinux too, but not enabled?....thing is, I don't understand what the system monitor has to do with SELinux, or why it being on or not would effect whether the system monitor can turn on or not......I guess my question is....what's causing the error? is SELinux on 1.8 too somehow? and if it is, why is this happening on my 1.8 x64 on my desktop, and not my other two 1.8 partitions? (x86 and x64 on laptop), also, if all of that is true, would removing SELinux fix the problem? and if I remove it, if it's really there, will it reduce the security of Linux or cause any problems? when I looked in Synaptic, it showed that a couple random SELinux entries were installed, but none of them appeared to be the actual SELinux software....so I don't know if that's a sign of something, or what.....kinda why I asked TheeMahn, since he built Ultimate Edition, I figured he might be able to tell me what's going on/which programs are or aren't on it, and how to fix the conflict >_>.