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live dvd difference to normal install?

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Re: live dvd difference to normal install?

Postby Cell » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:20 pm

1:format your usb stick in a fat file system.(not fat16)
2:open unetbootin,and choose the iso tab.Then navigate to the Ultimate Edition iso image,and open(I don't believe you can use an image on a dvd).Don't click on anything else.
3:when its done putting the boot image on the usb stick it will ask you to reboot...choose yes.
4:boot the usb stick.

You should be booting into the Ultimate Edition live now.


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1 western hd 100 gig drive
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Re: live dvd difference to normal install?

Postby ninhalo5 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:04 pm

Well, thank you everyone.
I couldn't get it figured out so I went ahead and fully partitioned the drive and did a fresh install with Ultimate Edition only and everything is working great now, except the flickering display... I'll start hunting down that cure :)

I'm thrilled none the less

Jeff
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Re: live dvd difference to normal install?

Postby Admin-Amir » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:10 am

Jeff

except the flickering display.

Go to=>System=>Administration=>Hardware Drivers.
Then install you Video Driver and Enable 3D.
Then Restart the machine.
hope this part is over.

oops=welcome to Linux Jeff <BREW> ;)

Thank you
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Re: live dvd difference to normal install?

Postby ninhalo5 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:34 am

Go to=>System=>Administration=>Hardware Drivers


Hello again, it's strange I went there and the only thing that showed up was one driver for madwifi I believe. wouldn't let me see anything else.

I don't know I think I just have way to many issues going on.

I had an update the other day that changed my Ultimate Edition into a real cheap 8 bit looking greyscreen ubuntu. my splash screen came up ubuntu and everything was changed so I deleted it all together.

I am curious though I have been trying different distributions Ultimate Edition being my favourite of course...(If I can ever get it to work on my laptop)

Some of them I have zero problems with for example Mandriva will install my ati rs690m radeon x1200 driver perfectly no problems at all. first boot up and I'm connected to my wifi and I'm happy. though some programs that are compatible with Ultimate Edition can not easily be used in Mandriva such as xbmc or skype. so I don't want to use that.

Then there are these other distbs. such as Ultimate Edition, Ubuntu which once they install my video card is not right, there are flickers and the screen is streched out. no wifi/ethernet can be detected. and no matter what I do to fix it I can only get one to work right and not the other. I tried Ubauntu studio lastnight loaded up my video drivers perfectly but no ethernet.
and then I have the issue of the Ultimate Edition live which everything works almost perfect on disk but not installed.


Why are there so many differences between these distributions? would it, could it be possible to take peices from one dist. and mix it with another?
I do know the kernals are different and maybe that is the reason for the differences in behaviour on my laptop.

It would be so nice to have some of the drivers automatically install and work like they should in Ultimate Edition without extra fight.

though this is a good learning experience for me and I wont give up. I love Ultimate Edition and I'm determined to get it running, unless I'm fighting a battle that cant be won

I'll be reinstalling Ultimate Edition with the new dist. hopefully that one will work better for me.

Jeff
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Graphics Memory*
128MB-319MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory
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2GB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM
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200GB HDD (4200rpm)
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DVD-SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) with Labelflash™ drive
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Re: live dvd difference to normal install?

Postby Admin-Amir » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:04 am

Hello ninhalo5 .

Did you have install the ATI Catalyst?
If not first install it then we will see what can be done with you Video card.
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Re: live dvd difference to normal install?

Postby Cell » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:05 am

Mandriva will install my ati rs690m radeon x1200



Not in the future it won't.All the main stream distros are starting to use the new xorg.The reason why you didn't have a graphics driver listed is because ati dropped support for it.the open source driver is the only one you can use with Ubuntu...and many more.

I'm not saying the open source driver is no less better than the propitiatory driver...it actually works well.In Karmic it works extremely well.
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hardware
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Dfi lanparty ut rdx200cf-dr
amd athlon 64 fx55 oc 2.9
2xvisiontek x1600xt gamers ed.
3 gig kingston hyperx mem
hauppauge win tv go tuner
pinnacle ultimate hd hybrid usb tuner
1 western hd 100 gig drive
1 western hd 160 gig drive
1 western hd 5 gig drive
1 usb hd 150 gig
1 usb hd 1 terabyte
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PhatDebian 1.0
StonerEdition 2.0
Ultimate Edition 2.4 Gamer Ed.
Mythbuntu 9.10
windows XP MCE remastered with Nlite
Windows 7 remastered with Vlight
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Re: live dvd difference to normal install?

Postby Cell » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:07 am

Amir,

All ATI graphics cards that don't have hd in the name will not use the ati,or fglrx driver( with the new version of xorg.,and the kernel higher than .28 *I think*)...so no he can't load up CCC.
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hardware
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Dfi lanparty ut rdx200cf-dr
amd athlon 64 fx55 oc 2.9
2xvisiontek x1600xt gamers ed.
3 gig kingston hyperx mem
hauppauge win tv go tuner
pinnacle ultimate hd hybrid usb tuner
1 western hd 100 gig drive
1 western hd 160 gig drive
1 western hd 5 gig drive
1 usb hd 150 gig
1 usb hd 1 terabyte
--------------------
OS/Distros
--------------------
PhatDebian 1.0
StonerEdition 2.0
Ultimate Edition 2.4 Gamer Ed.
Mythbuntu 9.10
windows XP MCE remastered with Nlite
Windows 7 remastered with Vlight
----------------------------------------------------------
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To each other, biologically
To the earth, chemically
To the rest of the universe atomically-deGrasse Tyson
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Re: live dvd difference to normal install?

Postby Admin-Amir » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:22 am

cell.

That explain to me few things now with the ATI issues around the process on the forum problems.
And this morning I have update my system as I do every day and there were some mesa update
for the ATI,and for the x splash,looks like something get batter from yesterday with the boot time.
and the fix looks more stable the yesterday.
Do you have the same results?
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Re: live dvd difference to normal install?

Postby Cell » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:35 am

Karmic?

I don't run a jaunty box at all....well I do,but its a laptop with Intel graphics.


mesa update
for the ATI


The "ATI" driver is what the open source driver is called(also radeon,and radeonhd)...if your using an card older than the hd's.

If you manuely download the ATI driver from ATI's web site,and compile it it will be called "ATI" also.

If you got an mesa update then your using the open source driver...most likely from a testing repo.Do you have one in your source list?


I just checked for updates.Are these the same your talking about Amir?
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Dfi lanparty ut rdx200cf-dr
amd athlon 64 fx55 oc 2.9
2xvisiontek x1600xt gamers ed.
3 gig kingston hyperx mem
hauppauge win tv go tuner
pinnacle ultimate hd hybrid usb tuner
1 western hd 100 gig drive
1 western hd 160 gig drive
1 western hd 5 gig drive
1 usb hd 150 gig
1 usb hd 1 terabyte
--------------------
OS/Distros
--------------------
PhatDebian 1.0
StonerEdition 2.0
Ultimate Edition 2.4 Gamer Ed.
Mythbuntu 9.10
windows XP MCE remastered with Nlite
Windows 7 remastered with Vlight
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We are all connected;
To each other, biologically
To the earth, chemically
To the rest of the universe atomically-deGrasse Tyson
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Re: live dvd difference to normal install?

Postby Admin-Amir » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:05 am

cell,

Here is what I have under synaptic about ATI.

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Just to remind you I work under the upgrade from 2.3 to 9.10 system.
And that is under the Intel Drivers,but I must have the ATI+Nvidia for tests right.
So if the 32 bit works fine there is no need to see what's up with the 64 bit.
The only issue around the 32 bit is not the Drivers now,The issues are with FireFox.
And the best solution to run the system at the best way is to Avoid the new update of FireFox.
Or to to go back from the 3.5,then all the cards work well on the system.
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