1.7 Locking up, but so did vanilla Gutsy. Please read post

[brjoon1021]

I just posted the contents below in the ubuntu forum. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4747001#post4747001. My new 64 bit 1.7 installation has done the same kind of lockup twice in the same day on a different computer than the one I was using 32-bit Gutsy on back then. Have you had the same problem ? Know of the solution? Or, know what I can kill to at least appease my curiosity about it being laptop management services ? I have killed at least 4 installations with the tweak guide for ultimate. I don't want to have that happen again.

"HI,
I notice that Gutsy has a LOT of attention paid to making it work well on laptops, to manage the CPU, battery, etc... which is a good thing for laptop users.

Well, I am using a desktop. And for some unknown reason I get lockups where the display dims a little, tints or turns more of a gray-scale black and white image as if it is trying to hibernate or do some laptop thing. Sometimes, moving the mouse will "wake it up" and all is well, but more often than not, the mouse moves a few steps then locks up , the screen remains kind of dim and grey and I have to use the power supply to shut the thing down. All of my hardware has been tested and it all works beautifully with Win XP.

There are dozens of pages of posts about this issue.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590242
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587905

Some people think it is specifically Firefox, I don't think so. There are lots of speculations about various drivers, Flash, video cards, compiz, etc... etc... but I have always thought that it is some of the laptop services and software trying to treat a desktop as if it were a laptop. The lockup seems to me to be like my Win XP laptop trying to "resume" when it is either hibernating or trying to go to hibernation.

All of the above is background for my question, which is:
What can I ABSOLUTELY, CERTAINLY disable or even uninstall with synaptic that is geared toward laptop use and not needed for a desktop connected to cable internet ? I want to remove or disable every single service or application that I don't need for a desktop that could even possibly be the cause of these lockups, as long as it can safely be removed.

Can you help or get me started in the right direction ? You could be helping many, many people if this is the cause. Today, with a new computer - I got two of the same lockups and it did not seem like FF was the cause. Crap. I am becoming more persuaded that it has to do with trying to hibernate a desktop or something like that.

B."

[vinca]

check out this...
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7
be sure you read each description to make sure you don't really need it, you can always reenable each item

[DaddyX3]

check out this...
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7
be sure you read each description to make sure you don't really need it, you can always reenable each item

TIP: do little at a time, and reboot a lot. This will keep you on track of the last thing that you did to bork your system This was written for Feisty (yes, I'm sure you can read - but .... ).

[LeadFingers]

Be aware there is a known issue with the tweaking guide in gutsy.

Followed the tweaking guide now HAL won't start.
Here's how bpollen fixed it

Code: Select all

sudo gedit /etc/init.d/rc

Change "CONCURRENCY=shell" to "CONCURRENCY=none"

Save the file and reboot.

How TheeMahn fixed it

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sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes

[TheeMahn]

Be aware there is a known issue with the tweaking guide in gutsy.

Followed the tweaking guide now HAL won't start.
Here's how bpollen fixed it

Code: Select all

sudo gedit /etc/init.d/rc

Change "CONCURRENCY=shell" to "CONCURRENCY=none"

Save the file and reboot.

How TheeMahn fixed it

Code: Select all

sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes

Funny I have been working on a tweaking guide for Ultimate Edition 1.8 and it isn't even out, did you know of all the howto's there are here it is #1 viewed & is on the bottom of the 2nd page. I explain to them in bold THIS CAN BORK YOUR SYSTEM and they tromp right down the road, the lure of power... I should write one that says THIS WILL BORK YOUR SYSTEM, what do you bet they do it anyways?

[TheeMahn]

I just posted the contents below in the ubuntu forum. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4747001#post4747001. My new 64 bit 1.7 installation has done the same kind of lockup twice in the same day on a different computer than the one I was using 32-bit Gutsy on back then. Have you had the same problem ? Know of the solution? Or, know what I can kill to at least appease my curiosity about it being laptop management services ? I have killed at least 4 installations with the tweak guide for ultimate. I don't want to have that happen again.

"HI,
I notice that Gutsy has a LOT of attention paid to making it work well on laptops, to manage the CPU, battery, etc... which is a good thing for laptop users.

Well, I am using a desktop. And for some unknown reason I get lockups where the display dims a little, tints or turns more of a gray-scale black and white image as if it is trying to hibernate or do some laptop thing. Sometimes, moving the mouse will "wake it up" and all is well, but more often than not, the mouse moves a few steps then locks up , the screen remains kind of dim and grey and I have to use the power supply to shut the thing down. All of my hardware has been tested and it all works beautifully with Win XP.

There are dozens of pages of posts about this issue.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590242
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587905

Some people think it is specifically Firefox, I don't think so. There are lots of speculations about various drivers, Flash, video cards, compiz, etc... etc... but I have always thought that it is some of the laptop services and software trying to treat a desktop as if it were a laptop. The lockup seems to me to be like my Win XP laptop trying to "resume" when it is either hibernating or trying to go to hibernation.

All of the above is background for my question, which is:
What can I ABSOLUTELY, CERTAINLY disable or even uninstall with synaptic that is geared toward laptop use and not needed for a desktop connected to cable internet ? I want to remove or disable every single service or application that I don't need for a desktop that could even possibly be the cause of these lockups, as long as it can safely be removed.

Can you help or get me started in the right direction ? You could be helping many, many people if this is the cause. Today, with a new computer - I got two of the same lockups and it did not seem like FF was the cause. Crap. I am becoming more persuaded that it has to do with trying to hibernate a desktop or something like that.

B."

I would like you to try Ultimate Edition 1.8 when it comes out, furthermore if the problem persists, I would love for you to go through the tweak guide that I am writing just for Ultimate Edition 1.8, it will be much different then any previous guide (it will be very dangerous), if you make an error you are re-installing, it will be written as a MEGATWEAKING guide and completely removes services from your computer it will purge them. The last statement I put on it will rebuild your initram, I am sure w/o a doubt nothing has ever been as heavy as what I will write (nor results of doing so correctly). You will really have to pay "close attention", when I delve into writing it, I will be vivid in informing everyone. The end results of successfully running through it priceless, I know it, I feel it daily. Beyond that if it is what you think it is unlike disabled the service will be removed, if a service is disabled does not mean it cant be ran, this will put your theory to the test.