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Re: Graphics

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:34 pm
by SaddleTramp
drama1981 wrote:i feel you on the deal with hp. mines the same way. they basically crippled it. the only option if you wanna use all that extra vram is to mod the bios. not for the weak of heart trust me. thats what i had to do with mine. mine supported a max of 64mb but they locked it at 32mb. removed ram timings. cpu voltage fsb ect (all the oc stuff). basically a whole bunch of crap. i have mine TOTALLY unlocked now. but like i said its not something i would really advise to do. you can turn you board into a brick if its done wrong.

if you do mod it though i claim no responsibility. make sure you do your homework.

LOL .. I hear ya ;) Naw...just bideing my time ...I'll tell ya this tho'...when I was building systems, always gave the customers a little extra tryin' to look after them, but my personal systems I built, if it didn't peg every benchmark there was, it went out the door at half price. Think I only had 2 go out that way. What they're (manufacturers) doing to systems today is criminal. They're so choked down it's pathetic. And I really believe they think they're protecting the customers from themselves :lol: If the users only could see the full potential of their systems. Well...anyway...

Re: Graphics

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:13 pm
by drama
well as far as the number they like to do on bios' i agree with some of the things they do. hiding overclocking features & stuff because you can do alot of harm in there if your not careful or kno what your doing. but at the same time the do hide some things that shouldnt be hid. for instince on my pc. the original bios had alot of things hidden.

it supports raid but what did they do. they first disabled it then they hid the entry.

ide controllers as we all know allow different dma modes. they locked it ad udma3 then hid it. hell the ide & sata were hidden period. some bios let you go in & see the settings (dma mode,heads/cylenders ect) but you cant change anything you can just read what it says. not this one. there was no trace of ide or sata anywhere in the bios except for the boot order.

power management is enabled then hidden.

this is just the start i could go on & on. ive never ever seen a bios so crippled as mine was orginally. all these things i listed too i mean what hard would they actually do if they had left them enabled? none what so ever. and like i said they even went beyond disabling stuff and got all sneaky. a good 80% of my bios was hidden.

Re: Graphics

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:01 pm
by Baphomet
SaddleTramp wrote:If the users only could see the full potential of their systems. Well...

They wouldn't need an expensive upgrade or replacement as soon? Or as often??

Oh,WHO am I kidding... They wouldn't do that.

Re: Graphics

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:49 am
by cowboy
Well this about the best I could do..the Computer Build is a combination of advice from TheeMahn..LeadFingers..Daddy..drama..Cab..and the others who helped, so in a sense it was there build also.... <BREW>
I forgot...my Brother.. ;)

No more tweaking..think it is set just right.. :D

Re: Graphics

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:16 pm
by SaddleTramp
cowboy wrote:Well this about the best I could do..the Computer Build is a combination of advice from TheeMahn..LeadFingers..Daddy..drama..Cab..and the others who helped, so in a sense it was there build also.... <BREW>
I forgot...my Brother.. ;)

No more tweaking..think it is set just right.. :D

Yeah!! Ya Think !?!?!? LMAO...I'd set she'll git-r-dun alright...nice...uhmmm...excellent....uhmmm outstanding.....ahhhh shoot....Whatta set of #'s!!!! ;)

I hear ya Drama...I know...if your savvy in this world, the only way to go and not get choked up is to build your own. Course if ya got some friends/family to help ya out on a custom job, you get a list and take it to get built. Then, of course, have friend/family come set it up for ya.

I hear ya too Baph, LOL, naw, they wouldn't do that ;)

Well, like I said, before the end of this year, I'll have it together. Then all this one will need to do is torrent or something to get Ultimate Edition spread to the world!! 8-)

Re: Graphics

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:29 am
by SaddleTramp
Since playing around with Compiz, something else has been going on:

Old marks (originally posted):
7920 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1583.864 FPS
8346 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1669.089 FPS
8369 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1673.675 FPS
8337 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1667.011 FPS

New marks (since playing around w/Compiz, even tho' it's still running at install settings):
9008 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1801.526 FPS
10831 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2166.040 FPS
10853 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2170.415 FPS
10850 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2169.926 FPS

:lol: and still no progress with getting the selections to stay selected... :?

Re: Graphics

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:54 am
by DaddyX3
New #'s with the new computer:
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96440 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19287.996 FPS
96761 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19352.168 FPS
96882 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19376.283 FPS
96796 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19359.090 FPS
96413 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19282.496 FPS

cowboy, You still have me spanked!!! I guess you have something going on right for ya ;) Must be the MB I suppose. I have a PCI-e 2.0 card stuffed in a PCIe x16 slot so there is a slight performance hit there. Not a big deal for me though! I think the human eye can only see like 35-45 FPS anyways!!! lol :lol: (edit: I should retract that statement, seems as though some people on the net would argue with me on that. Put it this way, what difference in FPS does a human eye be able to perceive? Can you tell the difference between 100 & 200 FPS?) But, hell - all you gamers out there that insist on having 90,000 FPS ..... go for it :ugeek:
New #'s with no compiz and no dual head setup:
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zzmadi@zzmadi-desktop:~$ sudo glxgears
101118 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20223.457 FPS
101785 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20356.930 FPS
101815 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20362.973 FPS
101761 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20352.004 FPS
101665 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20332.947 FPS
101130 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20225.879 FPS

Still down a couple hundred compared to cowboy's #'s. Must have a better card and M.B.--- Hell, could be something as simple as the color and theme setup. I give up ...... for now :lol:

Re: Graphics

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:44 am
by MrPC
15808 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3161.102 FPS
15867 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3172.398 FPS
15261 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3052.094 FPS
16155 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3230.930 FPS
Nvidia G0 7700 256Mb

Re: Graphics

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:51 am
by cowboy
Well Daddy you are top dog now these are mine now after a reinstall... ;)

Re: Graphics

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:21 pm
by DaddyX3
WOW! Your compiz had some serious effects on your test results!! Thats crazy!