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(Discussion)How to install the latest KDE from backports.



Re: How to install the latest KDE from backports.

Postby Xanayoshi » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:17 am

boarder428 wrote:Ok I tried this option and now the computer boots to a command prompt. If I try to go back to lightdm the computer will attempt to boot but hangs at the desktop

I'd like to think that this pc just doesn't want to run KDE but before Ultimate Edition 3.4 I was running the KDE version of Mint with no problems.


Let's back up, what did you do exactly and what system are you installing from?

The permissions have to be fixed before you can load into KDE PLasma Desktop from a display manager. Lightdm, if you are using Ultimate 3.4, 3.4 lite, Ultimate 3.5, is the one that you load into normally, the appearance changes after install but it is still lightdm if you keep it.

If you are unsure go to terminal

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startkde


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Re: How to install the latest KDE from backports.

Postby Xanayoshi » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:19 am

There are major differences between Ultimate Edition 3.4 lite and Ultimate Edition 3.4.
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Re: How to install the latest KDE from backports.

Postby pam » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:50 am

boarder428 wrote:
pam wrote:if you install kde it may prompt you to choose which display manager you want to use during boot up...

neways to check which display managers you have..
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ls /etc/init.d/ |grep dm


it will show you which display managers are installed like lightdm, kdm etc etc(the others are different init scripts and not related) ...


I get the following....
dmsg
lightdm


boarder428, seems you dont have kde installed or you may have cancelled installation..
go back to installation of kde-full from beginning of post..
once kde is installed kdm will get installed as Xanayoshi said.
For most part it does NOT matter which display manager you use...you can use kdm or lightdm and should face no problems..

If you have successfully installed and are able to get a desktop but in a broken state, i'd suggest you download and install the drivers for your
radeon 3200(from www.amd.com/drivers)...also switch compositor from compiz to kdm(this comes Only after a successful setup and installation of kde-full..)
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Re: How to install the latest KDE from backports.

Postby Xanayoshi » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:23 am

boarder428 wrote:
Xanayoshi wrote:Which dm did you choose during install? KDE will install kdm and gives you the option of which one you want to choose, I am assuming you had lightdm to start. With lightdm it is the circle, with kdm it will be choose session type or an arrow, although it can differ since kdm is extremely customisable.


I'm not sure. I did have a box pop up during install but I couldn't seem to click the ok button. I tried pressing enter aswell but nothing seemed to happen. If I recall I had to close out of the window!


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Re: How to install the latest KDE from backports.

Postby Xanayoshi » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:45 am

Off-Topic :
Reconfiguring the Display Manager

dm.png


So here is an example of me entering
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sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
Alternatively, as you can see from the menu I could
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sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
or
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sudo dpkg-reconfigure mdm
, all will take me here, as will installing, so if I type
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sudo apt-get install gdm
or replaced gdm with lxdm, xdm, slim, etc...,here is where I will end up.
To navigate this menu, go up or down with directional arrows to highlight choice, then press right arrow to go to ok and press enter.
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Re: How to install the latest KDE from backports.

Postby boarder428 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:07 am

Xanayoshi wrote:
boarder428 wrote:Ok I tried this option and now the computer boots to a command prompt. If I try to go back to lightdm the computer will attempt to boot but hangs at the desktop

I'd like to think that this pc just doesn't want to run KDE but before Ultimate Edition 3.4 I was running the KDE version of Mint with no problems.


Let's back up, what did you do exactly and what system are you installing from?

The permissions have to be fixed before you can load into KDE PLasma Desktop from a display manager. Lightdm, if you are using Ultimate 3.4, 3.4 lite, Ultimate 3.5, is the one that you load into normally, the appearance changes after install but it is still lightdm if you keep it.

If you are unsure go to terminal

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startkde


and tell me what happens.


I started out with everything you mentioned in the beginning
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Code: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports

Code: sudo apt-get update

Code: sudo apt-get install kde-full


still could not find kde at the login screen, then I figured out that I must have not chosen the display manager when asked during install so next I tried
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sudo apt-get install kdm
and then
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sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
and chose kdm as the display manager and this is where the problem began. So now I did
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startkde
and it say's " 'startkde' is currently not installed, you can install by typing:
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sudo apt-get kde-workspace-bin
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Re: (Discussion)How to install the latest KDE from backports

Postby pam » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:34 am

if you have installed kde successfully its hight unlikely that it wont give you the option to get in..
like mentioned before it wont matter which login manager you use..
Can you please be more specific as to the error and/or details as to what you are able to get..

If everything is done successfully and you get a broken desktop you may need to install the drivers for your video card..
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Re: (Discussion)How to install the latest KDE from backports

Postby Xanayoshi » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:24 am

What you have to do here Boarder 428, is install again. If the backports are installed,
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sudo apt-get install kde-full


Seems you are still on first issue, and that is resolved. You stopped the install. This is why the off-topic guide for navigating the display manager configuration. You have to start over.
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Re: (Discussion)How to install the latest KDE from backports

Postby Xanayoshi » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:29 am

Off-Topic :
Sorry, installing 2 hard drives and 5 operating systems, but Im almost ready to put computer back together
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Re: (Discussion)How to install the latest KDE from backports

Postby Xanayoshi » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:40 am

When you do get to the display manager option...choose lightdm. If you need to know how, look up. Do not exit because you will not be done. When the install is complete, you will see $ Afterwards, you will need to assign permissions to kde4 files to actually open the session from the dm.
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